11.02.2008

NYTimes graphic: The Debt Trap



NYTimes graphic: The Debt Trap


Comment: Instructive - worth checking out

Posted by Jim Peet at 11/02/2008 08:18:00 PM

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  1. AnonymousNovember 2, 2008 at 9:33:00 PM CST

    Hey JP, I'm trying to make this post relevant and not completely go off topic. Speaking of debts, they do have ill effects. Sometimes colleges can even close because of financial debts which cannot be any longer met.

    I'm confused (and can't ask a question at another site since I got kicked off)about a recent small college closing. Do I understand this correctly and am I reading this right? Was it closed really because of Calvinism? And if so, did the move TOWARDS or AWAY from Calvinism supposedly do more to lose students?

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  2. Bike BubbaNovember 3, 2008 at 11:50:00 AM CST

    The way I see it is simple; given rough economic times, will you be

    A. better

    or

    B. worse

    off if you have debt payments to make? If you can't answer that one clearly, you may have a career at the Fed waiting for you. :^)

    Sorry, couldn't resist. And regarding the other thought, my take is that theology is rarely the central issue in the failure of institutions. It's just a cover for the personal vendettas of sinful men. When the issue is "Calvinism" (vs. Arminius of course), it's 95% likely that one, or both, participants in the argument have never read a word of Calvin's work (or Arminius'), even in translation.

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  3. AnonymousNovember 3, 2008 at 12:30:00 PM CST

    Interesting thoughts, bb. I am kicked off another site (to remain unnamed), so I can't make posts and ask questions. I was just trying to figure out if Calvinism was the main point of disagreement. Some point out to the leanings of the institution and how it looked up to (no name given) a well known pastor and how "warnings should be given about such and such a person." What I'm trying to figure out is WHY warnings, in the estimation of some, need to be given. Is it because this person holds pretty Calvinistic views?

    Or do people mean something else when they say a fundamentalist institution starts to "go evangelical?" I'm trying to figure out, if not Calvinism, what that means? And who's the Calvinist - the evangelicals or the fundamentalists?

    Apparently people take their view, whichever it is, seriously enough that the number of students, and therefore, the income can drop.

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  4. Bike BubbaNovember 4, 2008 at 10:27:00 AM CST

    Anon, I'd encourage you to consider why you want to know these things. The water is under the bridge, and as far as I know, you're not a member or pastor of one of the churches they attend. Why dredge it up? To do so is to come perilously close to gossip.

    And at any rate, I know from experience at my past two churches that people of differing theological views can coexist quite well if they're both dedicated to Christ. Whatever happened wherever you're talking about can probably be listed as a consequence of carnality, not theology.

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  5. AnonymousNovember 4, 2008 at 11:18:00 AM CST

    BB, those are fair points. I have no intent at all to gossip! I apologize if it appeared that way.

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